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		<title>Is Rod McBan a Stranger in a Strange Land?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Steve Davidson
I had to skip last week&#8217;s entry due to time pressures and promised that I&#8217;d be taking a look at Norstrilia this week after having just re-read it.
I&#8217;m still pressed for time but I dared not skip another post here; I&#8217;ve been stealing bits and pieces of time here and there trying to [...]<p><a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog/is-rod-mcban-a-stranger-in-a-strange-land.html">Is Rod McBan a Stranger in a Strange Land?</a> is a post from the <a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog">Cordwainer Smith Blog</a>, run by his daughter.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Steve Davidson</p>
<p>I had to skip last week&#8217;s entry due to time pressures and promised that I&#8217;d be taking a look at Norstrilia this week after having just re-read it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still pressed for time but I dared not skip another post here; I&#8217;ve been stealing bits and pieces of time here and there trying to come up with a way to look at Norstrilia that was anything but a review.  Doing a review would have been fairly easy, but fairly boring too.</p>
<p>As these thing happen, it suddenly occurred to me that there is a great deal of concision between Norstrilia and another novel that I&#8217;ve probably read twice as much over the years (though not as recently) &#8211; Robert Heinlein&#8217;s Stranger in a Strange Land.<span id="more-134"></span></p>
<p>The Planet Buyer (the first half of Norstrilia) first appeared in Galaxy a few years after SIASL was published &#8211; so there is a possibility that it is an &#8216;answer&#8217; to that work.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably more likely that both stories share ur-tale (or perhaps xtian allegory) roots and that is about their only commanality.  But the similarities &#8211; across the divide of vastly different styles &#8211; remain intriguing.</p>
<p>Valentine Michael Smith is raised by Martians &#8211; and comes to Earth.  Rod McBan the 151st is raised by humans &#8211; on a world that has remained outside the Instrumentality, and comes to Earth.</p>
<p>Both characters endure a resurrection of sorts &#8211; Rod in the Garden of Death (after having been forced into childhood numerous times); Smith IS a child and spends the first half of SIASL maturing (after being &#8216;resurrected&#8217; back to Earth).</p>
<p>Both are beset by strange powers &#8211; Rod by a lack of hiering and spieking, Smith by his posession of arcane Martian abilities:  both characters are set outside the mainstream by this conflict of normal with abnormal.</p>
<p>Both spend a period of time at the circus &#8211; Smith literally as a carny and Rod in his trip through the market to the shop of Heart&#8217;s Desire.  Interestingly, a specific detail joins these two &#8211; both feature money in barrels, free for the taking.</p>
<p>Rod &#8216;buys&#8217; thousands of wives &#8211; Smith sleeps with just about everyone.</p>
<p>Each is strongly influenced by a single woman &#8211; Smith by Jillian Boardman, Rod by C&#8217;Mell and each acquires an aged mentor &#8211; Smith in Jubal Harshaw, Rod through several stand-ins &#8211; Jestocost and the E&#8217;telikeli primary among them.</p>
<p>The women share many traits, even down to being in similar professions.</p>
<p>Both are seeking to be &#8216;truly human&#8217;, and both find that their plan for accomplishing this task falls short of the mark; Smith is sacrificed while Rod goes home to Norstrilia to await the coming of the Queen:  each of them reaches their goal following a period if intense self-examination &#8211; Smith through grokking what it means to be a person, and Rod figuring out that he really didn&#8217;t need a Penny Black after all.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s just a shared homage to Campbellian themes &#8211; but I still think there remains a chance that Norstrilia was commentary on Stranger and that it found Stranger wanting: you don&#8217;t need to die in order to change the world &#8211; all you have to do is buy it&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog/is-rod-mcban-a-stranger-in-a-strange-land.html">Is Rod McBan a Stranger in a Strange Land?</a> is a post from the <a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog">Cordwainer Smith Blog</a>, run by his daughter.</p>
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		<title>Cordwainer Smith at the Movies</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>crotchetyoldfan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Steve Davidson &#8211; The Crotchety Old Fan
Can&#8217;t you just see the marquee?
THE BALLAD OF LOST C&#8217;MELL
or
THE GAME OF RAT AND DRAGON
although, given Hollywood&#8217;s penchant for stepping on things, that story would probably be entitled The Rat Game by the time it finally made it to the theaters.
Complaining about Hollywood&#8217;s treatment of well-known SF works [...]<p><a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog/cordwainer-smith-at-the-movies.html">Cordwainer Smith at the Movies</a> is a post from the <a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog">Cordwainer Smith Blog</a>, run by his daughter.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Steve Davidson &#8211; <a href="http://www.rimworlds.com/thecrotchetyoldfan">The Crotchety Old Fan</a></p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you just see the marquee?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><em>THE BALLAD OF LOST C&#8217;MELL</em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">or</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>THE GAME OF RAT AND DRAGON</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">although, given Hollywood&#8217;s penchant for stepping on things, that story would probably be entitled The Rat Game by the time it finally made it to the theaters.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Complaining about Hollywood&#8217;s treatment of well-known SF works has become a pretty common hobby on the internet: if you want to start a riot, all you have to do is mention <em>I, Robot</em> &#8211; the MOVIE, or <em>Starship Troopers</em> &#8211; the MOVIE and disappointed fans will make it their sworn duty to let you know just exactly how they feel.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The complaints, however,  still don&#8217;t stop anyone from wishing that their favorite story or novel will someday get the Hollywood treatment.  <span id="more-111"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;m no different than anyone else.  I&#8217;ve often wondered if Smith&#8217;s stories, like Ballad or Game or Littul Kittons could be adapted for the screen, let alone survive the experience.  I alternate between thinking that it might be very interesting to watch a movie audience as it gets dropped right into the middle of the Instrumentality of Mankind, and thinking that there&#8217;s so much back-story that would need to be front-story that it would be impossible to translate successfully.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">But on the other hand, there&#8217;s always Norstrilia.  I imagine the promo for that movie sounding something like &#8216;A Boy, A Cat and a Computer conquer the Earth &#8211; to buy a postage stamp!&#8217;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">A lot of the tropes found in Norstrilia have already made it up onto the screen &#8211; think girly-girls, then think &#8216;furniture&#8217; from Soylent Green or the immortal line from Alien:Resurrection &#8211; &#8220;Yeah, like you&#8217;ve never ****** a robot!&#8221;, or even Woody Allen&#8217;s Orgasmotron from Sleeper.  Replicants in revolt from Blade Runner, mile-high cities from The Fifth Element, politicians controlling unimaginable power like the Emporer in Star Wars.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">It certainly wouldn&#8217;t be difficult these days to replicate the imagery from Smith&#8217;s stories:  I&#8217;d be particularly interested in getting a look at those giant sheep making stroon or watching the bullman B&#8217;Dank jump off the tower, or taking a visit to the underground realms of the Underpeople.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">But I think what I&#8217;d most like to see would be C&#8217;Mell in all her red-haired, glory.  I just can&#8217;t imagine who they&#8217;d cast to play the part of the courtesan&#8217;s courtesan, the geisha&#8217;s geisha, the woman who&#8217;s job it is to make off-world VIPS happy with unrequited love.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">She&#8217;s worked her magic on me.  Maybe, given Hollywood&#8217;s relatively poor track record, my desire to see C&#8217;Mell in the flesh ought to remain unrequited.  But there&#8217;s still a part of me that really wants to see Smith&#8217;s universe up there on the screen.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What do you all think?   Would it be a good idea to see C&#8217;Mell up there on the screen, or should we all just leave well enough alone?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"> </p>
<p><a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog/cordwainer-smith-at-the-movies.html">Cordwainer Smith at the Movies</a> is a post from the <a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog">Cordwainer Smith Blog</a>, run by his daughter.</p>
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		<title>Norstrilia and Dune</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cordwainersdaughter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone, to your knowledge, yet found the connection between the two works  Norstrilia and Dune?
The life of Mohammed, perhaps (with which I am almost completely  ignorant)?
That they were both written at or about the same time suggests a common  precursor (or something in the air?).
Whenever someone touts Dune, I always refer [...]<p><a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog/norstrilia-and-dune.html">Norstrilia and Dune</a> is a post from the <a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog">Cordwainer Smith Blog</a>, run by his daughter.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Has anyone, to your knowledge, yet found the connection between the two works <em> Norstrilia </em>and <em>Dune</em>?<span id="more-10"></span></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The life of Mohammed, perhaps (with which I am almost completely  ignorant)?</p>
<p>That they were both written at or about the same time suggests a common  precursor (or something in the air?).</p>
<p>Whenever someone touts Dune, I always refer them to the superior (forgive me,  Frank Herbert) Norstrilia by Cordwainer Smith.</p></blockquote>
<p>This email came to me from Harry Buerkett, in 2002. No, I&#8217;m not <em>that </em>slow at answering emails&#8230; I&#8217;m recycling some old ezine material into this blog. I encouraged Harry to expand on his thoughts, and he wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve found yet another parallel: Both Lavinia and Chani bear twins (Ted &amp;  Rich at the end of NORSTRILIA (or THE UNDERPEOPLE; Leto II and Ghanima at the  end of the &#8220;third half&#8221; of DUNE, DUNE MESSIAH). The more I look, the more I  find. I&#8217;m fairly well-versed in SF, and ornithopters are not common in the  literature (authors preferring flying cars, jets, rockets, etc.), yet both your  father and Frank Herbert use &#8220;ornithopters&#8221; in each novel.</p></blockquote>
<p>I forwarded Harry&#8217;s email to Alan C. Elms, and here is part of Alan&#8217;s  reply:</p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks to Rosana for passing your question along to me and thank you for your  enthusiastic assessment of &#8220;Norstrilia,&#8221; with which I agree.</p>
<p>Your question is an interesting one, which I can&#8217;t answer definitively  because I never asked it of either Paul Linebarger or Frank Herbert. (I never  met Linebarger; I could have asked Herbert at one convention or another, but  didn&#8217;t think to do so.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure neither book was a direct influence on the other, since they  were both written over several years&#8217; time and were published at about the same  time (or in the case of the second half of &#8220;Norstrilia,&#8221; a couple of years  later), and Linebarger and Herbert did not correspond with each other.</p>
<p>A &#8220;common precursor&#8221; also seems unlikely in any specific sense. Herbert may  have had the life of Mohammed in mind, but Linebarger did not; as I&#8217;ve discussed  in my introduction to the NESFA edition of &#8220;Norstrilia,&#8221; that novel is based  instead on the Chinese classic &#8220;A Journey to the West.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would not be surprised, though, if Herbert had gained some inspiration for  such aspects of &#8220;Dune&#8221; as the role of the drug &#8220;spice&#8221; by reading Linebarger&#8217;s  earlier stories, several of which alluded to the similar drug &#8220;stroon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Both Herbert and Linebarger were very familiar with the whole of golden-age  SF; both were very interested in psychological theory and psychotherapy; both  had strong interests in religion, in international [translated into  intergalactic] politics, and in basic philosophical questions about what makes  an individual (of any physical form) human. So it&#8217;s not surprising that they  wrote novels with certain striking similarities at about the same time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Readers, please add your own thoughts.</p>
<p><a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog/norstrilia-and-dune.html">Norstrilia and Dune</a> is a post from the <a href="http://cordwainer-smith.com/blog">Cordwainer Smith Blog</a>, run by his daughter.</p>
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